Thursday 17 August 2023

Our Goat Keeping Days Part 1

 Weeks ago someone said they would love to know more about the years we kept goats at the smallholding.

Keeping goats for milk was something I really wanted to do (Not sure anyone else in the family was as keen as I was!)and moving to the smallholding in 1992 at last gave us the space. I'd been reading books about goat keeping for years so knew a little of the theory - what to feed them, never to keep one on its own, how their feet needed trimming, how they  could give milk for one or two years after kidding and keeping a billy goat or goats with horns was NOT a good idea - lot's of theory without any practical!

We were very lucky when moving to Knodishall as our only neighbour had been keeping goats for several years. She kept Angora goats and had a small business with people knitting up the mohair wool from the goats. She also had a few milking goats and gave us Daisy, who she'd been given and got her in kid to one of her male Angoras, plus an elderly goat Annie to keep her company until Daisy kidded. This gave us the chance to learn about keeping goats  and when Daisy kidded she taught me how to milk her.

There are seven main dairy breeds of goat in the UK: Saanen, British Saanen, Toggenburg, British Toggenburg, British Alpine, Anglo-Nubian and Golden Guernsey. Additionally the British Goat Society (BGS) recognises the British Guernsey and the British goat

 Daisy was a British Toggenburg and they were always my favourite with really cheeky characters. The goats we had for a few years at the beginning were usually being given away or very cheap as we couldn't afford a pedigree milker. We had a loppy eared Anglo Nubian called Shilling for a while but she didn't give much milk, and a rescued small Toggenburg who had been bred too young and had a really bad temper. The only breed we never owned was the British Alpine the biggest of British breeds and usually black with white.
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.At first we kept the goats tethered on a swivel stake and chain which was OK except for when they got tangled or pulled the stake out of the ground and it did mean moving them a couple of times each day and fetching them in if it rained.....goats are not weatherproof like cows are and they hate getting wet.

 Soon Colin put up some post and rail and wire netting fencing just outside the end of the big shed where we had them in pens we made inside. He put doors in the side of the shed so they could go in and out. We fenced another paddock on the field and I used to walk them across to this other paddock every few days for a change of grass.

By the time we needed to mate Daisy for the third time our neighbour had given up goat keeping but there was a man in the next village who kept an odd assortment of goats including a Billy and we took Daisy there.

Daisy and her two kids 1997


The goat below is a Saanen named Heather, I can't remember where she came from but I do know that sadly we lost her just before kidding the next year. Something goats and sheep can get is a deficiency during pregnancy and just like sheep, goats have a "death wish!" They go down hill very quickly and even after a vet visit and injection she became very poorly and I sat with her and had just popped down to the house for something and came back and found her dead. It was our worst loss. Losing a lamb or a kid had happened before but losing a fully grown goat just before kidding was awful.



There's a saying that every farmer with livestock knows " If you have livestock, you'll get deadstock!"


After having a few cheap but useless goats to keep Daisy company we travelled right down to Essex to buy a young goat in kid from a well know breeder but when she kidded I found her teats much too small for me for milking and the breeder agreed to take her back. Had I been more experienced I would have kept her and got her in kid again in the next Autumn when her teats might have been bigger from raising the kids.

Three girls in their paddock


 Continued Tomorrow
Sue

(The things with that very long list of ingredients were doughnuts which I thought were just ordinary jam but turned out to have a revolting chocolate sauce in them. As I said - shouldn't go shopping without breakfast! I ate them- not all at once I hasten to add - as I don't like waste but they were NOT nice!)

 

18 comments:

  1. Doughnuts, eh? I wouldn't have guessed that.

    Lovely goat photos and I'm now looking forward to the next instalment. They look right characters.
    xx

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  2. I checked my Blog Reading List this morning, barely awake, and thought your title was "Our GOAL keeping days" - and briefly wondered if you were gong to Sydney to sit on the subs bench!

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  3. My husband and I used to keep goats. We started with two toggenburg kids and we ended up with 17 goats of all breeds in the end. My husband used to milk them and we sold the milk to various people, mostly ones who were cow's milk intolerant. I loved having them, they were always getting into some sort of mischief!

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    1. Yikes 17! 4 was our maximum and only two milking

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  4. Donuts!

    Loving the goats post and pleased to see it will be continued

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  5. When my [human] kid was small and we were forever visiting farms and petting zoos and the like, the goats were always my favourites - they have such interesting personalities and interactions with each other. They're very entertaining to watch, especially when they're given enriching things to do (never get bored of watching them on climbing frames!). Did they feel more like livestock or pets to you?

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    1. That's why my children were always children and never kids - much too complicated!

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  6. We used to have two goats on the farm, we picked one up from Diss when she was in kid and brought her home in the car - she sat in front of my brothers' knees and behind the front seat. I was about 6 at the time and sitting in the front. Mum was driving. I loved the goats milk things mum made and can still remember goats milk custard being the best custard ever. The goat was called Mary and I don't remember what happened to her. We used to have to change her spot in the grass every few hours and she was tethered. I learned to milk her. Lots of people around us kept goats and they would be tethered along the grass verges of the roads. You don't see that now.

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    1. In the early 80's someone we knew kept two goats tethered on the wide grass verge beside the main A140! I always wondered if they caused any accidents from people gawping at them

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    2. We used to see goats tethered on the main A11 out of Norwich along Newmarket Road (big houses) when we came home from school.

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  7. They sound lovely if you have the space and time.

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  8. Looking forward to the next instalment. Kids' knees amuse me - so knackety.

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  9. Thanks for this Sue, I think it was me who asked. We hardly ever see goats nowadays so great to read of your experiences. I love the idea of taking the goats for a walk to fresh pasture. Next weekend when the farmer’s market is in town I will buy some goats’ milk cheese and soap. Sarah in Sussex

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  10. My father had 2 nans and 3 kids. One of the nans had a fierce temper and took a strong dislike to me, much to my father's amusement. I was once cornered in the back corner of the barn and could not get out. She knocked me back in every time that I moved to the door. My sister came in and saw me trying to knock her away and ran out. I thought, "Oh good! She's gone for help." She came rushing back in and yelled, "Dad told you to stop being mean to the goats!"

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  11. One of my blog friends has a herd of cashmere goats and her account of the politics of the goat family is like trying to manage a seating plan at a wedding! They're very emotionally complex animals. But she loves them all.

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  12. I always wanted goats but Keith said no. My favourites are Anglo-Nubians - to look at that is. It sounds like you had some characters. So sorry about the one you lost close to kidding.

    Not surprised that the mystery ingredients were for the horrid doughnuts. My main wickedness in the too-many-ingredients stakes are Greggs' Apple Danish. I just have one occasionally but really enjoy them.

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  13. Never owned a goat myself...there are some a few doors up from us...and I've known many people who have...kind of nervous they'd get out and eat everything including the washing! x

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  14. I've never owned goats but got to know one at a local dairy and ice cream shop. Billy was the goats name and he was tethered to a tree near the ice cream stand. Billy was very stealthy and seemed to snatch ice cream cones from anyone he could. My young son loved Billy and they sat together on a bench near the tree where Billy was tied. My son would take his cone and run to visit with Billy and in short order tell me Billy took his cone. He was feeding Billy and then asking me for a new cone. I went along. Billy was a sweet goat.

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