Thursday 15 November 2018

In Suffolk We Have No Motorways and No Cities but................

...........................we do have a Cathedral.The Cathedral Church of St James and St Edmund (The dedication to St Edmund was added only in 2009)

The Cathedral is in Bury St Edmunds and of course gets a mention in the 100 Treasures in 100 Churches book.
A couple of weeks ago I drove west to look round the town where I worked  way back in the 1970's .
Many years since I'd been in the Cathedral but I happened to pick a day when it was full of primary school choirs practicing to sing at a concert, which meant it wasn't possible to get right around the inside.
But here's what I saw.
The Treasure mentioned in the book is this sculpture of King Edmund by Elizabeth Frink and commissioned in 1974.
The Cathedral complete with proper tower taken from the Abbey gardens, the top section of the tower was only added to mark the millenium in 2000. It took several years work to finish something started many years earlier.
The font with tall font cover

Couldn't get down the front of the cathedral due to the school children.
Note the perspex figures - put in place for Remembrance Day -  The figures were put in several churches to remember those people lost from the villages and towns

The figure in close up.

The kneelers in the Cathedral were created in the 1960's. each have the name of one of the villages in the Diocese.  I would have looked round to find my local villages if the place hadn't been full of schoolchildren!

A Model of the cathedral and at the back is the beginnings of a larger lego model being built brick by brick as the bricks are sponsored to pay for more refurbishment.

Poppies in the cloister to mark the centenary of the ending of the Great War




Another view of the Cathedral from the side


On the left of the photo the buildings are newer, but matching the old and housing offices, a cafe etc

The Norman Tower stands beside the Cathedral - the original way into the abbey ( more about this another day)

This is a drawing of how the abbey would have looked back in the C14, all gone apart from the few ruins and the Norman Tower which is easy to spot with what was then just the  parish church of St James to the left of it and the Abbey Gate on the left edge of the picture and St Marys church - bottom right corner. So many houses in the town must have been built using materials from the abbey after Henry VIII and the dissolution




The Suffolk Churches website explains how we come to have a Cathedral without a city

         In the early years of the 20th Century, the Church of England was at the apogee of its influence and self-confidence. The time was right to carve up the dioceses of England into smaller patches which could be more easily in touch with their parishes. Parts of the Diocese of Norwich and the Diocese of Ely were brought together to form a new diocese which would eventually take the name of the Diocese of St Edmundsbury and Ipswich.

And yet it might not have been called that at all. The first task for any of the new Dioceses was to choose a church to become its cathedral. For some this was easy and obvious - Essex's new Diocese would inevitably be seated at St Mary, Chelmsford, and that of south Hampshire at St Thomas, Portsmouth. But the new Suffolk diocese, which would cover all of the county except for the Lowestoft area, had a problem. There was no obvious church that stood out as a potential for a new Cathedral. The chosen building had to be big, but it also had to be suitable for expansion; historically important buildings would not lend themselves to being knocked about. Ipswich had nothing to offer except St Margaret, which was not big enough and too architecturally important for ruthless expansion, and St Mary le Tower which was big enough for a starter, and not historically important; but on too confined a site for expansion, and in any case without the gravitas a cathedral requires. Southwold, which is near to what was at the time believed to be the original Suffolk see at Dunwich, was big enough; but it was too valuable to be extended, and in any case too remote. The other great Suffolk churches, Lavenham, Blythburgh, Long Melford, Stoke by Nayland, and so on, were obviously too remote, as well as being too important to touch. The choice came down to the two Bury St Edmunds churches, and the final choice seems to have been made because St Mary had too many medieval survivals to make extension acceptable. No, only St James would do.


Many thanks for comments on the favourite music posts

Back Tomorrow
Sue


31 comments:

  1. The weather was good, and the photos excellent. Never seen much of Suffolk, did Seahenge in Norfolk a few years back and also worked at Castle Acre Priory on excavations - many years back..........

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. When we had the campsite we often had visitors who had never been to Suffolk before, They were always surprised at how quiet it is and the varied interesting things there are to visit

      Delete
  2. These posts are always so interesting and the photographs are beautiful. Thank you for sharing these visits and so much information that I would probably never learn if not for you.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I'm learning new information all the time too.

      Delete
  3. That's so interesting, thanks.
    xx

    ReplyDelete
  4. Thank you Sue. We nearly went to the Frink exhibition in Norwich last month, but decided it was too expensive. Maybe a trip to Bury St E to see just one would be more fun! I'm trying to find out more about EF. She lived here in Dorset for many years

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Bury is worth a trip for the abbey ruins and Cathedral and the town

      Delete
  5. Another wonderful tour Sue which I thoroughly enjoyed and once again learnt so much.

    ReplyDelete
  6. That was so interesting thank you.

    ReplyDelete
  7. How wonderful to have an Elisabeth Frink sculpture there, one of my absolute favourite artists.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I shall have to look her up as I know nothing about her

      Delete
  8. I love the fact that it's only recently been finished. It gives us a glimpse of how bright they must have looked once upon a time. Arilx

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. It was a wonderful idea to do the tower for the millenium - makes the Cathedral visible from further away and looks just right

      Delete
  9. The last paragraph about how the Cathedral came into being really tickled my fancy this morning. It’s now an amazing buiilding even if it was only chosen because it seemed less important than the others. What an unusual poppy display.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I hadn't even thought about the hows and whys of the cathedral so found that bit very interesting too

      Delete
  10. Fascinating - my Aunt used to live at Barton Mills so we have spent quite a number of visits looking around Bury St Edmunds, in fact we went a couple of years ago as DH had a job there refurbing some old Court buildings. It had never occurred to me that there is a cathedral and no city.

    ReplyDelete
  11. Very interesting Sue I have family in Bury St.Edmunds a lovely place to live in.
    Hazel c uk

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Only thing that spoils Bury is the traffic - both through the town and the continuous hum of the A14 going round the town. I enjoyed my years working there

      Delete
  12. A place I have never visited Sue, so thanks for the tour and the lovely photographs. It looks so atmospheric.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. more photos of Bury St Eds town centre another day

      Delete
  13. I absolutely love the Cathedral and the Abbey gardens. It's such a beautiful, peaceful place to visit. It's one of my must-dos when I go home. The gardens are stunning in the summer time.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. They had just planted up for spring so it was a bit lacking in colour.
      I was pleased to see the aviaries still there as that is what we always went to see when I was little. I'm sure the ruins are getting smaller - or maybe thats just me remembering them from the past!

      Delete
  14. I have never been to Suffolk either. Loving the trips out. The Cathedral is a surprise. Beautiful, real wow factor.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I've not been to your bit of Scotland! Actually I've not been to lots of bits of Scotland!

      Delete
  15. What an amazing historic treasure! Thank you for sharing the images. ((hugs)), Teresa :-)

    ReplyDelete
  16. Thanks for the tour. You're taking me to places I will never get to otherwise.

    ReplyDelete